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Murray siemans 150 amp panel
Murray siemans 150 amp panel





murray siemans 150 amp panel
  1. #MURRAY SIEMANS 150 AMP PANEL GENERATOR#
  2. #MURRAY SIEMANS 150 AMP PANEL UPGRADE#

Generator Transfer Switch, Rail Mounted Automatic Transfer Switch Dual Power Automatic TraSwitch AC 400V 3P 63/80/100A (100A).LATING Generator Interlock Kit for General Electric GE 150 and 200 Amp Panels with 1 1/4 Inches Spacing, Blue.Your panel can accept Siemens or Murray type MP breakers (thanks or certain Bryant type BR GFCI breakers. Assuming you're using this for normal residential uses, where most of your loads are intermittent, you can consider this a 125A panel.Īlso of note: while Crouse-Hinds is no longer in business, their breaker business was bought out (and fully supported) by modern breaker companies. Panels that are marketed for residential and not industrial uses typically don't give you that second number as well, but it's always 80% of the maximum rating. So, if you were to load your panel with entirely continuous loads (nearly impossible in a house, but not that weird in an industrial setting), you'd only be able to use 125*0.8=100A. And the way it works in the NEC, is that continuous loads are only allowed to use 80% of the available capacity. All panels (all electrical equipment really) have both a maximum rating, which they can handle for a short time, and a continuous load rating, which they can handle indefinitely. Your panel is labeled more completely than most are. Your panel is what's commonly known as a 125A panel. (Granted, it's not much different from putting a NOS MP120AFC arc fault breaker in the panel, considering it's far too old to be labeled for type MP-AT2 breakers.)

murray siemans 150 amp panel

If none of those are an option, your AHJ might be willing to accept an Eaton BR (not BRD or GFCB) breaker in the panel based on it being crosslabeled for BRD and GFCB types, but that's a judgement call considering that UL never tested it for that precise configuration. If you can't get your AHJ to accept Siemens breakers in this panel for some odd reason, you can Eaton CL for the solar breaker as that's UL classified to play nice in Murray (including Arrow-Hart/Crouse-Hinds) panels. If you don't wish to take a minor gamble on New Old Stock Murray/Siemens MP breakers being available and in good shape, I would use a Siemens QP breaker, based on the subsitution letter Siemens provides, although that's subject to AHJ acceptance of the subsitution. Siemens has discontinued the Murray MP line of breakers, and it appears that the other breaker types it is labeled to take are either GFCI (ITE/Siemens QF1-B, Westinghouse/Eaton QPGF, Bryant/Eaton GFCB) or double-stuff (Bryant/Eaton BRD). The one other issue you might have with this panel is finding breakers for it.

murray siemans 150 amp panel

In that case, I would talk with the AHJ about a written variance to use the above center-fed calculation method. If you have an AHJ that's not quite with the times, you may run into trouble as the standard load calculations tend to be more restrictive when applied to center-fed configurations such as yours. With a 125A main breaker, this lets you put a 25A solar breaker in, which limits your system to 6kW.

murray siemans 150 amp panel

Note that this 120% rule is the same as the rule in subpoint 3(b) that'd be used if your panel was end-fed with the solar breaker at the other end this means that the 120% math works out all the same, and gives us 150A for the combination of main and solar feed breakers. The sum of 125 percent of the power source(s) output circuitĬurrent and the rating of the overcurrent device protecting theīusbar does not exceed 120 percent of the current rating of (d) A connection at either end, but not both ends, of aĬenter-fed panelboard in dwellings shall be permitted where If your jurisdiction's adopted the 2017 NEC, you're good to go, since it provides new language for this situation in 705.12(B)(2) point 3(d): The fact that it's center-fed may or may not be an issue

#MURRAY SIEMANS 150 AMP PANEL UPGRADE#

From the labeling on your panel, in particular the note about field upgrading 100A mains to 125A by replacing the main breaker and the meter-to-main-breaker wire jumpers, we can tell that this panel has 125A busbars in it, since UL wouldn't have permitted the manufacturer to provide such an upgrade as an option otherwise.







Murray siemans 150 amp panel